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SP3OSJ
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GERBERS from UI_OVI40
« on: 29. June 2018, 10:46:44 »
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Hi,
colleagues from the project asked me to publish my materials OVI40.
Publishes the gerbers PCB of the OVI40 controller.
and file OVI40 controller design in Sprint-Layout 6.0
Please download:
EDIT by DF8OE: <Link temporarily removed because the contents does not match license>
73
Artur
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DJ0RG
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Re:GERBERS from UI_OVI40
« Reply #1 on: 29. June 2018, 11:02:07 »
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I'm new to this, and it is not my business, but is publishing internals really what you want to do at this point in time? I'm confused if this is coordinated with all stake holders, especially Andreas...
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Re:GERBERS from UI_OVI40
« Reply #3 on: 29. June 2018, 12:02:20 »
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Ah OK, then the "OVI40" naming for Artur's project mislead me into the wrong direction. Mea culpa! I thought that OVI40 is the name of your project for the Ortsverband I40, and not for the polish clone.
I appreciate (and actually admire) the original OVI40 work, thanks for this!
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SP3OSJ
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Re:GERBERS from UI_OVI40
« Reply #4 on: 29. June 2018, 12:07:40 »
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Why can not I publish my work?
Amateur Radio is a hobby and please treat it as such.
I do not have to earn money on my hobby works!
This is my choice
Andreas I'm glad you ask about it
I do not have MHC485 mixers up to 23cm (import from China)
Synthesizer ADF4350 works well controlled ATTiny13, is synchronization
and there is frequency.
Should be OK.
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Re:GERBERS from UI_OVI40
« Reply #6 on: 29. June 2018, 12:18:49 »
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@Artur: Please don't take me too serious, I'm new and not experienced too much. For example, I was not aware that you copied and adjusted the OVI40, although I can read up this on this forum. My mistake!
The only thing I find "interesting" is that you use OVI40 name. But again: not my business, that is something between you and Andreas. Who, to my best understanding, has based OVI40 on the mcHF experience ;-)
Enough talked about this, I think all is clear now. Enjoy!
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DF8OE
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Re:GERBERS from UI_OVI40
« Reply #8 on: 30. June 2018, 09:50:02 »
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This is the first cloning of OVI40 and to show the possibilities I explain in short form
And yes: it is cloning not an "own work".
- It is allowed to take the schematics and design an own PCB.
- It is allowed to publish the result if you follow the very simple rules of license (see next listing)
- Regarding "Ham-Spirit": I by myself never would scan a PCB, do slightly modifications and call this "my own work". There are some snippets of own work (and it may be that they make fundamental difference in behaviour) - but I cannot call the sum "my own work". This Gerbers / the Sprintlayout are the result of a scanning of original PCB which is slightly modified!
Very short list of what to do when you want to publish own work that you have done on OVI40:
- add the file containing the license text to your work
- make clear (in textfile AND on PCBs, schematics e.g.) what is the base of this (where it is forked from) - e.g. "OVI40 - https://www.amateurfunk-sulingen.de/projects/ovi40-sdr/
- make clear who is the publisher of this new work (in textfile AND on PCBs, schematics e.g.) - e.g. "reworked/improved/ by xxx yyy"
The reasons are very simple. Someone who finds the zip in the web must be able to see
- what license it has
- where is the origin
- who has published the files which are in front of him
But the intention of putting all to Open Source is not that as much as possible people clone the parts and publish slightly differed versions. The intention is to invite others to contribute their work. And as many OMs are already present in the "Hall of Fame" of UHSDR there will of course be a "Hall of Fame" of hardware, too. So Artur: if you want to contribute your 23cm PCB to the project you can publish everything about it within OVI40 (I am the maintainer and will add everything you want). You can put your name / callsign on every sheet you contribute. But it must integrate in Cern OHL - because every contribution must follow this license, too.
In fact Artur:
- there is no copy of the license in your zip
- there is no sufficient information that makes clear what is the origin of this
- there is no sufficient information who has published this
Informations must be in text form "as a file" within the zip AND shown on hardware production files (Gerbers, sourcefiles of PCB CAD) so that you can get the information when you simply see the PCB
Please remove the existent zip and add the neccessary informations. Or - better: contribute your work.
Regarding used CAD software:
Altium/Protel: very powerful, but expensive commercial closed-source-software for Windows.
KiCAD: free, powerful Open Source software, available for all platforms. Maintained by developer team of CERN. I use it (and recommend it) for contributing, because everybody regardles of PC operating system and money can use it.
Sprint-Layout 6.0: cheap closed source software for Windows system. Advantage is that you can use a picture of an existing PCB as base and simply copy the existing tracks. In German we call it "Malen nach Zahlen" and it is a good skill for children who cannot draw but want to draw.
vy 73
Andreas
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dl2eea
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Re:GERBERS from UI_OVI40
« Reply #11 on: 01. July 2018, 18:03:22 »
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I've just done a comparison with Arthur's version and I'm full of admiration. Very clean and correct performance. Congratulations Artur!
In my opinion, the version of Arthur is not a copy but it has been reworked and corrected. That's why talking about cloning is out of place.
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Josef
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SP3OSJ
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Re:GERBERS from UI_OVI40
« Reply #13 on: 01. July 2018, 23:13:52 »
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Andreas, do not talk to me like that!
Why is your malice?
It's not better to do a project how to write such bad things?
I treated you like a brother.
I helped You so much:
1) You asked for my PCBs from other projects, I sent a PCB to you.
2) You asked for the company's address in China to produce PCBs and published them on the forum
3) You asked in a private email for gerbers files, I sent them to the forum for everyone and you got angry.
Why?
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